Professional Bull Rider Chase Outlaw and PBR Announcer Matt West – UNLEASHED Podcast E404

Explore the cowboy lifestyle with two icons of the culture! Joining the show, professional bull rider Chase Outlaw and PBR commentator Matt West provide a glimpse into the rugged world of rodeo with The Dingo, Danny, and Brittney.

Get inside a special episode recorded on-site at Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles featuring two of the figureheads of professional bull riding: Raised in the cowboy lifestyle, Chase Outlaw is a five-time State Champion and took third place in the 2019 PBR World Championships. Prior to turning pro, the Arkansas native was a five-time State Champion and started riding calves at age 4! Hailing from Nowata, Oklahoma, Matt West is the official voice of the Professional Bull Riding (PBR) tour. When not announcing live events on the PBR circuit, West shares his extensive knowledge of bull riding and cowboy culture as a television broadcast commentator. Together, the two explore the finer details and raw nature of the sport – only on UNLEASHED!

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2018 cheyenne, is the last cowboy standing. that bull jerked me down and hit me in my face. I wasn't wearing a helmet, hit me in my face, broke over 30 bones in my face. That night I had a 14 hour reconstructive facial surgery. Within 75 days, I came back to riding with a helmet on, there was three events left in the season. I came back, finished, No worse than 4th at them three events. won the velocity finals, won the year of the velocity then came into the world finals, finished third at the PBR world finals that year. ended up like 15th in the world, 16th in the world. And then came back 2019, Got to cheyenne again to where I got hurt the very next year at the last cowboy standing And I won that event won pbr’s last last cowboy standing at that event.

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in the event where he should have retired. and then finished third in the world that year. Or whatever. I blacked out. Cause we are. We're technically in Kobe's house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see how the bat is hanging on the wall? I see that a la champion logjam like me and chips. Maybe a Kings one up there. Probably a few Taylor Swift batters. I've been here before for a summer X-Games. No, that's definitely a Taylor Swift. Better hanging, is there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she holds the record for the most consecutive shows. Of course. Like that. Every arena in the world, I'm sure. But that's not why we're here today. As you can see, I'm in a cowboy hat. Guys, we are live from. It's called the Crypto Center Now crypto and crypto crypto dot com arena, crypto dot com arena. And that is Matt Leroy West. It is, man, it is. We just found out that his he likes to be called Leroy. I actually like to be called Matt or whatever but Leroy is my middle name so it is what it is and Matt is you're the you're kind of the face and host of PBR. Yeah, I play a lot of different roles. I get to be the in-arena announcer in venues like this. I also half of the year I am a television broadcaster, so I kind of do whatever they need me to do whenever they need me to do it. Really, That's not a bad I love it, man, and not a bad organization to be doing that gig with now and then. One of the well, one of my energy's favorite and PBR. Long time running guy hurt right now but Chase Outlaw, we got you back. We got you back in the seat, brother. Yeah. Sorry. Good to be back. How's that leg hold? No, it's attached. It's attached by a rod. Yeah. And pins and they put it back. Put a rod from a native my ankle in October I broke my leg have and fib compounded it and put a rod and two pins. We're going to run. We're running some footage, as you can see on the screen here of you Chase just from previous PBR outings. How's it how's the recovery been Good. Been healing up good. I went to the doctor and he gave me a good report just whenever I feel like I'm ready. When do you think that'll be? I'm asking the question that all of us as PBR fans want to know because I get it every week, Wednesdays I'll. I'll come back, man. At least another month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, he said my bone is held up and he said six months right off the bat and now I went back. It's been 12 weeks since went to the doctor and he looked at it, he said you have the most remarkable healing ability I've ever seen. He said, This is good to go in. More like to a full fledged out working out now. He said no, that's good, Rod. Really, I was I really I said, I can't even do it when I get jump rope on it. And without it, you know, hurting. And at that point, more than pins and at the break and also so I'm waited multiple injuries before. I've never come back to Shane and I mean I know Nathan Yeah I and yeah, that's smart because I think that's where a lot of guys mess up. A lot of guys just want to hurry up and get back and they want to get back and they'll deal with the pain. Because what people don't understand about our athletes is they're not making money, they're not guaranteed contracts when they're sitting at home injured. They're waiting to get back to work so that they can make money to pay the bills. And so you see a lot of guys rush back. They get back too early, then they get hurt and they're right back to where it all started. And it takes a lot of maturity in our sport to be able to do what you're talking about and just wait until the time is right for you, man. I mean, cause hey, today, right now, every one of us, we're as old as we've ever been, but as young as will ever be. Let's that's. That's never heard that. But that's true. We are. You're as old as you've ever been. Then I'm feeling great to some yoga stretches this morning. Cause I was pretty sore. Actually, I was feeling a little lousy on the oldies are felt, actually, when I first woke up. Now I'm feeling pretty. The youngest have ever been had a boy. Brittney Palmer. How are you? I'm good. You know, I just did a match on stem cells. I'm probably feeling the youngest I've ever felt freshly back from Colombia. And you look great. Get you to Colombia? Yeah. Thank you. What did you get done? I have 165 million new stem cells in me from Bio Accelerator Colombia. Amazing experience. Second time going, you know that. Are we going to get you on a bull? Can I go in a bull? A nice one. A calf. I do a little one. I don't know. I don't know about the one Callaway wants to do. I don't know about that one. I've got pictures of little girls on some of the bulls that we'll see here this weekend. Let's let let's let let's kind of we're here we're we're in crypto, the old Staples Center on Kobe's house a lot of but every year you guys come here you sell it out two nights in a row. It's like I remember the first time I came here, I was like, where the the all these people come from, We cowboy hats. It's not because you think downtown L.A. is the last place in the world. You would think 40 bull riders would show up and sell out an arena this massive. But it happens. We do it in New York City. Madison Square Garden. You were there earlier this year. They come from everywhere because I think it's similar to like fighting. It's similar to what all of you have done in the extreme sports world as far as like these guys are doing something that should not be humanly possible to do with the ease that they do it with. You know, and I think that there's something fascinating about that. Doesn't matter where you live, doesn't matter what you do for a living. You're fascinated by greatness, right? Yeah. So that's why people show up. And let's talk about that. It starts at Madison Square Garden, one of the most iconic arenas in the world. How many stops, how long is the season? What what are the fun cities? What are the not so fun cities this season we're in right now, which is the individual season. Guys competing by themselves are is 24 stops and and we started in November we'll go through the end of May and we used to do that from January to November. But now we do that in Yeah, from November May Yeah, from November to May. But because now there's like teams half of the year is teams season and so Chase is a part of a team right for half of the year gives these guys more opportunity to make money but it also puts more wear and tear on the how does the team work. So there's there's eight teams for the first two seasons and now they're bringing in two more teams that will be next year. They'll have five active riders on the roster and or seven active riders on the roster. And then at an event they would have five guys matched up with five guys from two different teams. Go head to head challenges This guy against this guy this guy and then bears aggregate on five head wins that game and the next day two other table and so they'd have four games that night. Next year they'll have five games now or maybe a bye one day. But then at the end of the weekend, who's ever three, you know, or two and three, there's a couple of teams at two and three, there'll be a bonus round right off and the bonus round. So that how that works. And there's ten of them in the finals. It's great because it's just like basketball, right? You've got your starting lineup, you've got five guys that you're going to put in the game today. Each one of those guys has to get on a bull. And what I love about it is for the casual fans, for somebody that's never seen our sport before, all they've got to do is show up. Like when we go to Nashville. It is crazy because Nashville, such a great sports city, right? Everybody knows it for music, but they've got the predators, they've got the Tennessee Titans and things like that. And so they show up. And Nashville is almost like the new Vegas to me. It's crazy. It's a fun place. And then they have those sporting arenas. I was there last year for the supercross we did in the Titans football stadium. I mean, it it's it's a football arena, but it's damn close to full. What I love about it is, is now like if you're in Tennessee, you just show up and you know that Nashville's got a team. You don't have to know anything about the sport. Just cheer for your team. Same with any of the different teams throughout the league. And that's who I'm with is Nashville Stampede. And then explain to me how like a team, like the breakdown of a team, is it like a NASCAR breakdown? There's a team owner and it's sponsorship. Yeah, yeah. We've run in a lot of very interesting characters to the ownership group, and every team has an owner. Then they'll go out and they'll hire a management team, they'll have a general manager, then they'll hire coaches and a lot of the coaches will go out and hire strength and conditioning coaches. I mean, it's just like every other professional team sport in the world. We're dive and more and more and more into what can make these guys more successful, what can bring this to a bigger platform and ultimately get more eyeballs on on what these guys do for a living. Let's talk about the bulls themselves. The bulls themselves are like basically athletes. The bulls have owners. The bulls are conditioned, the bulls get treated well. We were talking about that. The bulls have a good life and they're traded back then they're traded better and more traders have they're fed good. That's true. Yeah. I like all the news to air conditioned hated bonds. I mean, and then on a working night, the bulls are only running, losing and live a life like Hugh Hefner living in more sex and later with cows. When he light up in the morning. Later, that gal you laid up with a lot of cows just saying. But yeah, that's a pretty good retirement program. Those heifers. It is cool because, you know, most of the bull owners will tell you the first thing they do is go out and feed. They the bulls get fed before the kids or they feed themselves. Like that's priority number one is getting out there making sure the bulls are healthy, getting them fed to start the day. Then you can come back in, you can shower, you can get ready to go on about your business. But it's take care of those animals. That's the first thing they do. And the last thing they do before they go to bed is check on those animals. That is it. Same with us here. That's the number one priority. There's a lot of misconceptions in the world, but at the end of the day, when you guys walk out of this building, you'll see where they back the trailers up. Our crew has taken dirt all the way out the back so that those bulls never step on concrete because Got a lie, slick. I saw them run them into in that regard and they render no concrete. You'll notice the concrete has grooves in it. It was actually quite it was quite it was quite fast. It was, it was it was Britney's old Britney's old boss, Dana White, has a bulls twisted steely as he come in here tonight. The bulls are here this weekend. I thought you met Dana. I was like, I think he's kind of busy and is in and he's bulls busy, too. Yeah, but we were there when Cowboy saw the bull the first time we watched Twisted Steel. Steely was in Vegas in, like, October. And then at that point, I don't think Cowboy was considering riding the bull. And I think I don't know what happened in between that time, but come back as a square god. And he decided that he was going to ride the bull and it was going to be twisted steel. And we've made this, you know, there's there's been a big build up. The PBR was done, but I was there when they brought Twisted steel into organ and it was it was quite it was quite iconic. Like you're in Madison Square Garden where it's one of the most sold out everyone that that's the arena you want to sell out, right. It's the Mecca and then it goes back to the Knicks history. But then watching a cowboy like really in the bull, riding the bull and the bulls get the bulls get loaded up by trailers. Right. So it's like one by one. They bring him in. And then for the first ever time, I think watching Cowboys face change, when he got to go face to face with twisted steel and him realizing that he's going to have to ride this bull, I think for the first time he's like,****, what have I got myself in? I feel like you and I were part of like this iconic moment that nobody's ever going to know about. So in the back, I have it all on video. Same watching these bulls come up and we're both standing next to Cowboy, and then that bull comes around the corner and you can just like I felt like I was in a movie watching Cowboy look at this bull and watch him just run by. It looked like a scene from a movie. I don't know how that movie's going to end when we get to AT&T Stadium. That's my next question. What's what would it chase? What do you think about what do you think? How does this how does this fairy tale story end? I mean, the I'm just going to go I mean, I'm looking at I know one thing, cowboy ain't going to back up from him. He's not he's not going to turn loose and back up from him. But you look at how many outs as he had. 17. 18. A bunch? Yeah. My 20 something 30 That like 20 of the top 35 bull riding on the face of the planet has had their hand to this song. And only one rodeo. I mean, and a lot of times they don't get him warmed up. Yeah. And the way he looked last weekend. Were you there? No. No footage. Yeah. Yeah, he was at JB's, right, Watching the live feed. No, it's not like I want that bull twisted still. yeah, I heard twisted steel is, like, jacked up. yeah, I couldn't. I mean, it's going to be one thing just on him just to get out of the box safely like that. Because he got so triggered in there and freaked out in there. So that's going to be. He doesn't like being in the box. That's going to be a test on its own is him getting in and getting out safely and properly, too, because it's not going to be like the bulls that he's been getting on at. JB He's anyhow, he's got a wild tail and he'll he'll train on these type bulls, but it ain't gonna be like getting on. That'll just stand there. Let him slide up and squeeze with all he's got, you know, for he guy out. Now if you woke up on this bull and you try to just sit down and you try to take the inspires in him, boy, let me tell you he's going to come uncorked in there. That bull has like basically like what he's talking about like really quick. It's the equivalent of a guy just flying across the Octagon with a flying knee. Right? As soon as they shut the cage door. I mean, it's quick. He wants to get out you and get out your fast. It makes sense that that's Dana White's bull. That right above them all bull's eye and then shown up top notch on line I mean and Moses. I guess I can smell fear in a sense authority. If they can do it then get your bluff in on your quick. They will. But if you get your bluff in on them. I got a mind just like waiting. And you can psych one of them animals out. I want to know what you think, what I think's going to happen. He said, Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to do something. I, I hope he doesn't get hurt. And you know, he's a warrior. Yeah, he's a warrior warrior. And he is going to take it to him with everything he's got. Yeah, and you better believe that. And he's also taking a serious. He takes everything he does seriously. So he is training, but he's also got a million other things going on. It's like they fit it into his schedule when he can go train, whereas I think he should be training every day. He needs to be focused on this. This is this is a little bit more than a I mean, I know schedule by eight, energy by nature, this guy, because they don't like one of them race trucks and you can get garbage out, you know what I'm saying? He controls the throttle on that race truck and there was always a referee in that cage that could stop something, whether he got two out of hand or somebody got too out of hand. Yeah, but when you step over in that when you step over in this cage, and especially when you open the gate, it's no referee. There's no there's no brake pedal. It's all ******* gas. The fact that he's doing it makes me want to bet everything I have on cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. Like, because it's. Can you bet on. Can you bet on. You know what? We need to figure out a way, I guess. I'm sure you can bet on everything. Yeah, I bet he's got a crazy. That's one question. And I might be the only guy that's been on cowboy. That's the problem. Yeah, I mean, that cowboy would, you know, he stepped up and did this. Not like, you know, Chad Ochocinco tried this years ago. Yeah. What was that? nine? yeah, It's been a long, long time. But he got on a ball that bucked here, but he wasn't so damn twisted steel like he was. It was deja vu. Deja vu. There's a blue eye blue, which he just. Yeah, open the guy. He was just nice with just being out there in the gate. I mean, just when you want to get on, stop when you get off, walk out. And he only lasted he didn't even last 2 seconds. Know that that was that was they gifted him another second and a half. It lasted it was quick. But but I'm holding the microphone when cowboy makes this challenge, Right? Yeah, you are. You're driving. And I'm looking at him and I'm wondering, like, is there any hesitation? Is there any back up? Is there any down hundred percent this hesitation because you may mean you are both there in in Madison Square Garden. And I saw his ******* look in his eyes when that bull blew by and he realized that he's really got himself into this. And you know him very well for a long time. Yeah. And he's not going to back down. But I saw him. Not going to say, You look scared, but he looks evil. But this is one of the baddest dudes. But it wasn't like he backed down it, but it was like a realization of like, Holy shit, I'm really doing that. And that's what's. That's what's really dangerous. Yeah. Guys like him. May I ask when you can say we don't get scared? We get scared sometimes, but we know how to harness that and we know how to use that as fuel and and not let it. We know how to let it work for us and not against us. And that's why we're at the level we are. And that's why he is where he is. Because I guarantee you, he's been you know, the baby came down, some guys he fought, but I guarantee he knows that it's a fight for survival in there. And it's the same thing. Well, the way in is a little different right? I mean, but, you know, weight class, there ain't no weight class. But what I was getting back at, he stepped up and he didn't choose just a little mediocre bull. He chose I mean, he stepped up to the plate, let them hang and picked. I mean, I would say it was a great deal, would collab with Dana White. Obviously that was the big deal. But this bull ain't no medal. The mouse on this is a you want to be a bear, be a grizzly. That's right. And you don't. He he better he better be a Jeremiah Johnson some because when it comes to guys in the chat let us know if if you think cowboy sorority or twisted steely Dana White's bull is going to be the victor That's May 17th in Dallas. I think it's a Dallas. It's the 18th May 18th AT&T Stadium in Dallas. Huge weekend, right? Performing May 17th. Kid Rock's not only doing a concert, but he's also completely revolutionizing the entire sport of rodeo. They're going to have a team concept rodeo to kick off our weekend. Kid Rock's doing everything, man. He's putting the plan together. He is. We're going to have a draft here coming up here in a few. We thought you were going to say Draft Rodeo. Yeah. Who's writing the draft? I wrote it once. You write the draft? Yeah, I would write a draft. There might be, you know, one Kid Rock, There could be anything there. There's a draft for this rodeo. There's a draft for the rodeo. Yeah. How do I get, say, about getting in that draft? You can't. Noble, Right. No bull riding, not at the rodeo. Everything else. And I promise you, it's going to be cool. They got buddy. Well pick up I don't know if they got what I don't know what he said buddy Barrel pickup. You know that's another it's a barrel in the arena at the end. And then you put your buddy in it and pick it. Now you get on right down aisle and you're on a horse and you run down as fast you can. You turn that barrel and whoever's on that barrel has got to jump out and swing on the back of you and your horse and back across the line. Whoever can do it the fastest is some redneck stuff we do back in our party world that once again, my next question to you is you have your your your event. Yeah. Yes, sir. What's it called? The Chase Outlaw. Chuck and the Chuck and Box. The outlaw gang. Yes. And explain to us what's happening in there was at an event that takes place in Clinton, Arkansas. It's a national championship. Chuckwagon races. Chuck. Chuck Chuckwagon Chuckwagon races. Yep. And so you're in a wagon? Yeah. How many horses in front? Two horses. And then there's a division where they have four mules pulling a wagon. Right, for mules. But they have Oklahoma land rush The buck board for a mule, big mule, classic division. I do bronc fan and it's like NASCAR, but it's the largest equine event on the face of the planet and it's right there in my backyard. But it's been going on for 39 years. My family's been racing there for 24 consecutive and they have bucket seats out in the middle of this pasture brought up and passion and they always do bronc fanning out there. I said a bull ride right here would would be it. And your spectators be horses and wagons. So had bugs she said about little field and horses and wagons. Parker coordinated and had them stacked in there all around and made the rain out of people and horses and wagons and no fence, no fences was name no fences at all really, but bulls in the middle of the pasture and not just amateur bulls. We had Cord McCoy had his bulls bulls that bulkier bulls that have bucked here and it was it was a real deal monster. Ms. K She came with Monster and they miscarry. Yeah, I said it was I like how poor what cowboys are. She's the best You guys are some of the most polite people I've ever seen and you guys are some of the craziest people I was in. Think about what he just said. When you talk about crazy, the spectators or the fence or the fear I got, that's the bull runs towards a fence here. It's okay. We're on the other side of the fence. The bull runs towards the fence there. It's like, I'm the fence. Just think about the fans watch and how you know. But crazy. They got Monster posted the video. Yeah. What you pay for of their own. There's more than anybody. Listen. Go on, monster. So I'm going to pull up a video over here in a minute. But after the break, I'm going to pull up a video of it. And we're going to show because we've got some people a lot of people in here are asking what what the hell is a chuckwagon? I got to go. Go chuckwagon race in Arkansas. I know they got their phone in their hand. They technically did all their computer. It's a throwback, man. I mean, everything you saw in the movies, like in the old Western. Yeah, they would run across the country and like, the old canvas covered wagons with the wooden wheels. It's a throwback. I mean, that's exactly what we're talking about. I mean, it's ten days long. You get out there and you camp all weekend and you just enjoy yourself. You can go back to enslave all of this crazy bullshit that's in this world behind for about ten days. And you can go back and just really get back to the roots and just enjoy yourself, Have great family. Perkins Drink. I mean, you can drink the moon, all the moonshine base, all the moonshine you could drink. What kind of paradise? They'd have concerts like we have Britney on a shot, on a chuckwagon, I guess. Chuckwagon. I guarantee it. I think the you in that outfit down there, you would be fine being this outfit anyway. It would probably be an outfit down there. You're going to need security and know that people will just imagine in wagons to like their own races. They're hooked up. I mean, fast running and it's dangerous. Yeah. yeah. Somebody dies here every year. Wait, what? Yeah, somebody dies. Ah, every year from drinking or from that to everything. But more in the races. And more people get wiped out like spectators on their horses. And then because everybody comes and you come and ride your horses. So it's guaranteed that a spectator is going to die. No, not, not. Not guaranteed. I'll buy your ticket like a thanks, Matt. This is something we would have done back in the day. Yeah. Guns. Yeah. And I would have died. Yeah. We'd like to put ourselves in danger. Well, we went crocodile hunting once. This is really embarrassing to the film crew. Cock long dance. So it's not. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's pretty damn intense. And you never know what to expect. You say this is over, it'll be over 20,000 people riding horses. Wow. Yeah. You say that's the dumbest thing you've ever done. So August 29th. August 29th is my bull run. Yep. This, that. Hold event last the weekend before Labor or the week before Labor Day. And it goes on. And then the races are Labor Day weekend. My events the Thursday before Labor Day at Clinton arms out at the Borrow F ranch. It's awesome. So what I was getting at is that people that listen are probably thinking like old Yellowstone wagons. What? Yeah, that's like the ones we raise, but we also I mean, we there's wagons, there is their tricked out wagons. those tricked out wagons. I like that. I like that about it. I got a buddy that subwoofers. What a method, man. Yeah, yeah. I've got a dog exhibit. Exhibit at exhibit 22 foot long, and he's got a big old set of big thoroughbreds that and quarter horse crosses that he poses, saying with, I don't know how many subwoofers it's got on it, how many strobe lights, ladies. But it's jacked up, It's got big mud tires and like people do with their boats at the lake. Yeah. And it's monster green and it's got lights. We had 34, 35 people on that sumbitch this year. CLINTON Right. I mean you talking about riding and Bob and and party in at 2:00 in the morning and it's moving so yeah and I so there's a place called the Buffalo Rock. It's a great big old rock. Big Rocks is about 20 foot and 20 foot in the air and there's a big giant metal buffalo on top. Well, that's like the party congregation spot, isn't it? So this ranch is only about its own 5000 acres. People camp, there's 500,000 people camping. So but and about 20 of them probably on horses. So they all be there at this rock and they'll be just around this big rock. And I mean, as far as you can turn around and say, just stacked in that deep and they'll be there party and all night, and then you can leave there and be riding all around this place. And it was its own real man, unreal people looting. And you take this, it'll be unlike anything I've seen. I've been around the world twice, twice, twice. Both directions. Which direction was faster? I can't. Likewise, I'm. I'm still on the second lap in the second. Second lap of the second. But I've been all over the world. Dingo, and I've seen some crazy shit. But the craziest thing that I've ever witnessed in my life has happened at this place over this week. I mean, it's, it's unreal and I mean, it's fun. I mean, it's not just all a big party. I mean, it's all about your family. And our campsite is a man. We have a big, huge campsite. All the kids, we have big cook ins every morning, big breakfast, big lunches, big suppers and. Yeah, and we do have fun, but it's all it's all about getting back to being a cowboy. And I like that. But it touches on something. And I know that this resonates with with you and and I hope it resonates with everybody that's watching at the core of everything we do as wild and as crazy as the life can get and as big as the party gets, it's all about that family feeling, right? You know, like the people you surround. Yeah. With. It's just like this. Like it's family. And that's what. That's what that's about. That's what this sports about. When you go in the locker room with these bull riders, they understand that the dangers and the magnitude of what they do. And that's why everybody in that locker room feels like family. We show up every single weekend to a different city. Call it a traveling circus, Carl and a carnival, whatever it is. But I think it is a traveling circus in the best way possible. But for us, it's family show over the air. Family get to the arena. It's like we're home. Yeah. What city we're in with our people? Yeah, 100%. Danny was a little worried this morning that either either that the bull, the bulls might get turned on by Matt. You're no stranger to coming in and having fun here. Where are the actual What is what he's laughing at? Jason is singing Leer easy and you know stranger and I said to the rain and that is Chase outlaw we're going to drop some video here if you guys have never seen Jace ride a bull this is this is some footage of him and others riding bulls. I'm currently working with a bit of a broken leg. No, it was a full fledged compound. Yeah, well, have you heard what's going on in your head right here and Nothing. Just thinking. I believe that. I mean, just right. I mean, but right there. I mean, you're thinking. Well, it was when you're when you're in the zone and you're up there, sometimes it's so hectic and crazy. It's just all going by so fast. But when you're when you're riding at the top of your game and you're in the zone, you sit up there and you can hear people you can pick out and you can specifically hear people in the back of the bucket seat talking like you can hear yourself and you can react to what you're thinking of, like in through your mind. And you can talk to yourself. You can talk to yourself when you're riding. And then when you're in that zone, it's just it's like you made a sandwich up there. So like, right, You need a sandwich when you're watching that right there, like everything's quiet, Like, can can you kind of build a bubble around you to where everything but I could only hear the bullfighters are right and I've been a Pacifica. They pick out like a scream in the crowd, but really like, I've heard that and that whole like being in the eye of the hurricane where it's like, supposed to be a cone of silence. Yeah, I've heard so many guys talk about that. And it's hard for me to to imagine that you can be an arena with however many thousand people are going to be here and everything. Just be silent. Yeah. Like, just like when you're hitting that rope up and then when you're sizing up, I mean, you, you, you can't hear nothing. All you're hearing is, is your thought. I mean, you're you you don't even think when to not you don't think when you shake your head like when you sat up there. Your body knows when it's in that spot and you're it's just reaction like to know and it and like you said it's a for you is that the key to clear everything out like completely clear your mind you're doing this when you're at the top of it. You don't have to do that. It does it automatically. But and when you're, like, struggling to, you know, to to be at the top, you do have to fight back all that out. But when you're at the top of your game, it just flows. And that yeah, you don't have to think about it before you're in that moment right in your riding in the gate opens. How much control like do you have of getting the ball clear out of the gate? Is there like tactic to move it or is it that. Yeah, it is. It's all you and your buddies and it's it's a three man show, really. I mean, you need somebody a crisis boy. You need somebody out there running the that gate at the front to get that most attention to make him stand up thinking he's going to roll when they get to squatting a little bit. You got a guy have got pull you rope and then you got to have a guy spotting you. And so when that guy's pulling rope, he can step over and at that both laying in or whatever, you can, you can walk and you can walk with them bulls and put pressure and walk and get them up if you want, if you want to. There's some guys that don't and they just sit there and just expect it and just waiting for the ball to stand up like a dog at a dog show and and say, All right, let's go. But the guy that steps towards your hope, he can assist you and stay there and push him off of you, turn his head a little bit to make him take his weight off a leg and step up. So I said, we're not competing again against really each other. We're competing against the bull. Yeah. And and if you make me if I beat you, it's either because one of us did our job or didn't, or if we both did our job is just because one of us had a little bit better of a bull. And then one other thing I was wondering is like, so when you're when it's in the gate opens, right? What are you watching certain signs of the bulls muscles to see like where and kind of anticipate where it's going to go or are you reacting to it? It's just our reaction. So my neighbor, he flew F-16s and Apache helicopters in desert storms. He got shot down just right inside enemy lines doing the airstrike. And he had to drive like two weeks there and finally made it out. But his sergeant or whatever told him when he came out, he's actually he said a select few is woven in only a select few people's DNA where they can remain calm and handle their self in the midst of the storm. And he said, You're one of them. And then after my one of my accident, Koli, that Denver guy, he told me that and that guy's out there and he's imagining and whatever. But that is one thing that he he said to me and I was like, Dang, you're you're absolutely right. There is only a select few. And that's what separates the man from the boys is better maintain yourself the whole time in the storm. Any of these guys can do it for the fighters to sacrifice 34 or 5 seconds, but then guys that get to the point where it's sink or swim, there's only a select few of us that will go down sinking and still come out on top. But there's been guys that that's changed path to swim more the times and I think now they might be here but they ain't up here. Here Chase has one of the greatest stories in my opinion in the history of all of sports. Like I really think it should be a 34, 30 documentary or something like that, you know, because he had an accident happen in an arena that would have caused most people to never even buy a ticket to this sport again. And when was that? Talk me through that July, July and 2018. It's Cheyenne, Wyoming, and tell everybody what happened. So 2018, Cheyenne is the last cowboys standing elbow dart me down and hit me in my face. I wasn't wearing a helmet, hit me in my face, Broke over 30 bones in my face. That night I had a 14 hour reconstructive facial surgery, which in within 75 days I came back to ride and with the helmet on and I was like 75th in the world. There's three events left in the season. I came back, finished, all finished. No worse than 4/4 at the three events came in at the varsity finals. One the Velocity finals, one that year, End of the Velocity tour then came into the World finals, finished third at the PBR finals that year and ended up like 15th in the world, 16th in the world. And then came back 2019, got to Cheyenne again to the way I got hired the very next year at the last cowboy standing. And I won that event, won the was PBR last cowboy standing at that time in the man where he should have retired and then finished third in the world that year. Think about that. Yeah, think about that. 14 hours and complete facial reconstruction. And then in after the 2018 world finals, I had to have another surgery, like another eight hour surgery to take the pins and plates out for my, my face don't grow. And I had to modify to make all these plates with it's kind of like a 3D printer. But what, they made all these plates. I have to do that trying and make all these measurements and had all the plates already pre-made took the stuff that was in there out Ray put no stuff, That's all in there now. But that's why I do what I do and that's why I love this sport so much. Because a guy like that that has he spends 14 hours on an operating table having his face completely redone and all he thinks about is how can I get back to reach my goal? And 75 days later, he's back right in bowls again. And not only just showing up and getting on, but competing at a level that gets him back inside the qualifications to get to the world finals and then comes back a year later to that same arena where it all should have ended in a lot of people's minds and not just shows up and competes wins the damn thing. Like, yeah, it's a haunted with story of I'm one of the hardest and alone events to win. Yeah I want to know what is like what is that What is that drive that you have? If you can put that into words like that passion or that hunger to keep going, is it something that you can express maybe for people to understand? And if we could really put it into words, we'd be all millionaires. But it's really it's just the passion of the sport and like you said of our first talk and knew what we signing up for when I started, heck, I had stitches put my head in stitches when I was 12 years old from doing this. And I mean, so it ain't that we're dumb. It's just that we're passionate about something and I mean, you're not going to let a little injury, the little injury set you back because with time that will heal, With time that will heal. And you just got to some guys had mental comeback from injuries and but I don't I'm just I'm always trusting in this God that he's going to keep me safe. I made him what went won't break you will build you and I'm thankful for every experience I've ever had with anything because I wouldn't be the person I am today. It's really just having that passion for the sport, that passion for doing what you love and really just for whatever you do. I mean, yeah, I just love this sport. Everything is about it. It's really where the last real gladiators, 100% man like last night we had pro BMX is pro snowboarders pro mode across riders. They're all sitting here watching, filming, and they're all in their craft. They're the best at what they do, and they're looking at you guys being like, These guys are ******* it. These are the toughest guys. Like, these are guys that are constructed, created tricks, flips their bike, goes down, they break bones, they know how it is to break bones. But they're all saying, hey, like the craziest thing about bull riding is that like, like coming from a snowboarder or a motocross rider or BMX are they're in control. They're in control of the bike, They're control the snowboard, they're in control of their destiny. Whereas you guys, it's you at a bull and you're not in control of the bull. No, the bulls job is to back you. And I think watching these athletes and their admiration towards you guys is is I would say, you know this and I don't know writing tomorrow. JB Like maybe the two gnarliest things that you can possibly look to do in this world. And I think this is one of the toughest sports in the world and watching all the athletes give that admiration, it's it's it's you can see it and you see it on TV and you see it on the screen and you see how it is. But when you see it in person and you see that bull breathing and that that last second of like before the gate opened, it's like, holy shit, you see the muscles. Yeah. And these bulls. Yeah. And the sheer magnitude of, of their athleticism, how big they are and you think about, you know, not just throwaway the dangers but like you said, the willingness, because it's our human nature to want to be in control of everything. 100% everything. I want to be in control of traffic when I'm driving to the gym here in L.A. whatever I was goal today, by the way, goals was awesome. Traffic was. Yeah, But anyways, it's Saturday traffic. That's no traffic day. It's not bad. It wasn't bad. It's 30 minute drive. What? We want to control everything we do in life. And the fact that they're willing to just let that go completely out the window and say, I got to focus on what I've got to do and maintain my emotions while I let this animal do what he's going to do. And I just got to react to it like, yeah, to me, I think that's part of it that gets overlooked a lot is just the sheer letting go of that control. That's right. And that's I think that's one reason why we thrive for that so much as because we know you're not control. And then when you do conquer, a £2,000 bull is trying to buck you off. And then sometimes, I mean, some of these sandwiches are freaking man killers. I've seen them. There's a walk on man hater. I've seen them. They sung and run. After you and Paulette, you have had one bite me on the foot in the back and shit. I mean, I've had them soon as it was about as soon as a guy would go to get off. I've had same balls. You stop and look. No, the bullfighter. I'm say I've seen balls that have run around a bullfighter to run down the bull rider. But when you when you can slide up there and you call up a monster £800 bull and he's got three foot, four foot horns on each side and they're up in your face and you crawl up amongst them and you open the gate. I mean, and when you conquer that and really when you set up and you ride him with authority and like when you kick those and expose your free leg, I mean. That's right. And with that song, I'm with authority. And when you step off, I mean, no, there ain't nothing like it. I mean, you just conquered a £2,000 beast. They signed a buck. You off? Yeah. I mean, that's that's something. And so once you've conquered it, Right. What is the exit strategy as far as like, Okay, I got 8 seconds. Don't stop, too. You're on the fence. Don't stop to the ground. But getting off the bull is there like a time you wait? Do you wait till it, like, goes fully up and then you try and get the exit and let go? yeah, absolutely. There's a perfect time and synchronized with it all. Like when that blows up in that you ain't wanting to let go. And I mean, you're wanting to do it in rhythm on that, both buck. And so when his front end comes down, you want to be bugging him and say, when he comes up and when he's coming down, that's when you want to be stepping off and go with him on his graceful down. You won't be getting off when he's trying to come up. You don't want to be getting off when he's trying to come up, you want to. But there's also a pattern of the bulls going in a certain direction. You want to go? Yeah. You want to try to get off always not into this van, but out of this being out of it, out of the circle. You don't want to go against gravity and the both bullfighters, they try to take them both out of your Spanish. So you always want to try to get off into your hands. So if you had left handed, you want to get off on the left side most of the time. And so then bullfighters can get them and nine take them bulls and make them turn away from that guy's hand. But basically how we do this, I don't see how anybody could do this and be spiritually and believe in God and not think that. I mean, because you got to believe in some. Yeah. I mean, you got to because that's who really gives you the strength to to do this. And I that's how you human get down on set. Pretty good but when you got somebody you know else and like you said that's why you run around the paper you run with iron sharpens you don't. Yeah. No sheep don't hang out with them wolves or cats and dogs don't hang out dismounting a bull is exactly like my skiing. How's your skiing, man? In the opposite direction. My knees would go this way. I would accept this way. It's exact plan for getting off a bull. Let the bull go this way and exit the terrible, terrible. Worse. They call that a yard sale. Is it? Is that what it is? You lose everything. So everything out there and you don't intentionally throw it out there. It just all potentially peels off. I was we don't have yard sale on a snowboard because we're stuck to the snowboard, then see it skiing, skiing. You can lose every this card catching your lip and then a shit whip right on your tomahawk. We kind of call where he kind of bend over and over and over. And Danny had a question about shit, actually, I did. Danny. I don't know. I don't remember the shit line. But I will say it takes big balls to do this. Those are all honorable for all they're all big. And the big balls over on our off air about most cowboys, if they're a real bull rider, they ride without underwear. Is that. No, no, no. Not rodeo underwear. Uncle Mess with man, he said. J.C., say a real cowboys don't wear underwear. And I was like five years old. They said I was. And they said I stripped down, took mine way off right there. I said, Well, I'm a real cowboy. So sit back. Said same jeans. How often do like new balls come into the like into the series? It feels like every week some of the weight, like mechanically, this is great way to put in it When a ball's born carved on the ground in three years, three and a half, four years, that more can be bucking at this level, highest level in the world. For a ball to be bucking takes 18 years for a cowboy from the time he's born till he can ever buy his car to right here. There was a 17 year old out there last night. he's 18. You got to be 18 to compete. So you think about that. So there's so many balls that's coming through out that are fresh, way fresher than what the guts guys are coming in. Because, like I said, it takes 18 years for one for a guy to be able to ride at this level. And animals don't buck every weekend. The bulls actually they get time off. The guys don't right. Compete every single week. But but every week there's new bulls and that's what the core of what we do. I want to be able to say I'm talking about the best bull riders in the world. And I can only say that if they're getting on the best bulls, the best competition, Kobe can't couldn't say he was the best player in the world unless he was going against the other greatest players on the court. Right. Right. And so we're constantly seeing new bulls bringing in the new ones, the fresh ones, the best ones that are available at that time and know what's this? What's the conditioning for the bulls like when they're not obviously out there? Like, how do they condition them? I know they're the first ones to eat in the morning, but what we've got to do, yeah, it's just like our guys, they have workout regimens, they have routines like daily routines. A lot of these guys I've seen were they'll build a heel up to where they feed so that those bulls are climbing uphill and that's a workout. You know, they're working out those front shoulders, working out those muscles. Obviously, like you said, they'll fade way over here. And if they got if they got if they'll feed way over here and if they got a big property, they'll make sure they fade as farthest away from where they water. So that way that animal has to take longer steps to go to the things that he needs. And for these bulls, the tendency is to see them get a little fatter than they're supposed to be instead of being too skinny. Right. And so just like any other athlete, they'll have alleyways built where they'll get out and they'll exercise them. They'll get big round pans where they'll kind of move them around and let them get exercised. No different than a a fighter's cut in weight going into a fight. Right. They'll do the same exact things. They'll get them back on that heel. They'll get them back running up and down that alley, running in a circle, just trying to get them conditioned so that they are prepared because it's a dangerous sport for both athletes out here. And if you're not physically prepared, you know, that's where injuries come into play. So they want them to be as precise, even down to what they feed. Every single bowl owner has a different idea of what's best to put in that athlete. And so the protein levels in each bowl will be fed something different. Absolutely. So what sandwich bull eating because they think cowboys aren't right, whatever, all the same diet or whatever, whatever he has banned from UFC fighters. Yeah yeah. He's probably what he has in that bull but chase that and Marty Fouche, I believe they've always had the strongest looking bulls I've ever seen, but they've had good, good ball Lambos But they have a facility that they swim their boat. Yep. It's a, it's a upright, totally enclosed wall and it comes around and it's got a little deal that comes behind them bulls and it'll push them to make them keep going. And it gradually tears down into a big swim tank where just their head deep enough for their head to be out of the water and they got to swim and it's like 30 yards or so that they've got to swim until they come up out of it. And they'll walk around that they'll come back and have to swim again. Yeah. Well then bulls that they've always would bring, it would just be jacked and sheet metal. Are there bulls. You look forward to riding bulls. You don't look forward to riding. Yeah but when you Jaume I mean it's no choice you got around them. Yeah. It's kinda. But they're like bulls. Like, I got that one that got that point cut shit. But then there's some side fight, and that's a kind of a that's a piece of shit, really. But you got him. I mean. Yeah, no choice. But there's some back there that make your mouth watering. yeah, there's some that's just like, Boy, let me have him. Yeah. And then like, there's some that. Yeah. What about, like, the first few? Right. Where are you going? As like, as an athlete, Chase, Is it like, do, do you guys, is it like scary to ride a bull for the first time but hasn't been ridden yet? You know what? The best way to find out the answer to that question rather than get on a bull that's never been ridden. So tonight we'll put you on one. No mean. All right. I'm asking. I know, but like, just just find out first. We could go tandem. Danny. Yeah. I don't trust any of these guys. I think they'd be like, take Sterling Fox. That's a real easy one. And then it comes out and it's like, That's a really good man eater. Just don't trust any of these guys. I don't trust them. I not me. On the scariest one. BE like, you got this. I wouldn't do that. He was real tame. I got a question in the chat. It says, What is the gnarliest bull bull you've ever ridden? that's a tough one. I know there's been a bull called legit. He was in it, so I'm worried about Pride £19, and he had four foot horns on each side. And he was meaner than a meaner chambray crowd. I tell you what, my my favorite chase outlaw expression. You mentioned expressions. I'm doing an interview one time and he looked at me dead and I said, You know what you do when you get a foot on your tiger's throat? No, no, Chase. I don't. He said, You keep it there. I said, No, you don't let them out. Because if you do it more like he like you, you don't let him up. And I was like, of course, of course. But that's the mentality they have, right? Is like a once you get that momentum, take on the biggest, baddest dudes ever, let's just keep going. Keep that pedal to the metal. Why, why, why? 8 seconds in competition? What did the 8 seconds come from? Because seven's not long enough in nines to long have not Like, that's the million dollar question, right? And nobody knows the answer to it. So I got to go back. There's no answer. There is no answer like this. Guess first Rodeo is ever. I like the first rodeo ever documented. I think they did that and there's no reason it don't say this is why we just got 8 seconds. In my opinion, it's kind of like that. That old game name, that tune. Well, I can name that tune in five notes. I can name that tune in six notes. And I got to believe that back in the day, these ranchers were just kind of going back and forth. I got a cowboy that's this tough. I got a bull, that's this tough, whatever. And it just started out like, my guy can ride longer than your guy. And like, they just settled in 8 seconds. I have no idea. I don't know anybody that that knows there's a million myths, and I know why. What is it? It's because 8 seconds on the biggest bull will feel like an eternity. It did. I promise. Infinity. I promise you. I mean, the infinity. The infinity symbol that's nailed it. Promise you. That's it. That's got to be it. Nailed it. Nailed it. Chase, outlaw your legendary keel up. And we can't wait to see you back on the bull. And August 29th, I'll be with you. I look forward to getting in the back of. Maybe I'll bring Brittney with me and she can chuckwagon with me. I guarantee it.