Rene Rinnekangas & Dusty Henricksen, X Games Champions and Snowboard Innovators – UNLEASHED Podcast E502

Get behind the scenes on Buttermilk Mountain for a special episode of the podcast: Prepare to be amazed when snowboard innovators Rene Rinnekangas and Dusty Henricksen share their X Games experiences on a special live episode of the sports and pop culture podcast UNLEASHED with The Dingo, Danny, and Brittney. 

UNLEASHED returns from X Games Aspen 2025 with two of the most prolific snowboarders on the planet. Hailing from Finland, Rene Rinnekangas requires no introduction: Known as ‘your favorite snowboarder’s favorite snowboarder,’ the innovator usually prefers dropping heavy video parts to throwing down in competitions. Nevertheless, Rinnekangas owns four X Games medals, including a silver medal from Slopestyle and gold from the Real Snow video contest. Rinnekangas is joined on the mic by Dusty Henricksen, who made X Games history by winning gold medals in Slopestyle and Knuckle Huck in his rookie debut at X Games Aspen 2021. Get the inside scoop from the two pro snowboarders behind the scenes at Winter X Games 2025 – only on UNLEASHED! 

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Now we're back. Come on. Joshua. All right. Yeah, we are back. We are at Winter X Games in Aspen 2025. Kicking things off. We're at the monster activation, and we have two new guests with us, Dusty Henderson and Ray Rennie at Ring of Congress. Boys, how are we doing? So good. Yeah. Doing great. Good. My dad. Thanks for having us. I feel like, you have just came off, a heavy, heavy video of, heaven. And I think we believe I have some of this to drop in right here. It's pretty incredible. It kind of took everybody by storm. It was like one. And then someone was, like, telling me that really kind of got to a shorter period to actually film all this heavy shit in. Yeah, well thank you. It was, actually like pretty long project, but, so it was like two and a half years, but then, I had like, injury and, in the middle while we were filming, so I had to take like one year off and then it end up being like one and half years of filming. But it was like a long project. So we're very stoked about it. And it's just incredible, like the way you see spots, you know, because like, I've driven around and been like looking for handrails and I gotta find a rail, man. But like, you find buildings that you can somehow get. Do you go on the roof and look around, like, how do you realize that you're going to be able to ride off this roof, do a trick, land on the ground, find the rail, jump to the rail. Right. We're showing all this right now, as you say it too. And the clips are like, you're you're everywhere. Like, literally everywhere. I mean, do you have a grappling hook, like, in your kit? How do you get on there? There's like in Finland, like there's normally like ladders going up to the, to the roof. So yeah, basically you just need to climb up there and check it out. But I think the secret about it is, all the like small towns in Finland and there's a lot of, like, abandoned houses and. Yeah, that's that's the secret of filming something like that, where no one's really, you know, I feel like explored, you know, Finland like you. The last person I'm trying to think of is era. It's all in his video parts. He would go and explore, but not like this. This is a different. This is different. Also noted that, your video now has a million views on YouTube, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that's like a pretty cool achievement. There. It's, it's been a while since, movies has gained so much traction, and I think in such a short time. And obviously you dealt with a lot last year. You know, you dealt with a really heavy injury. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a pretty, pretty long one. Or I broke my ankle and it took me like one year to get back in, like a board. And yeah, I think I was actually snowboarding after like seven months, but like, after a year, you actually, like, first I'm feeling good and like it's it's all about the mental mental game when you, when you get back on board. And. Yeah, it took me a while. Well, we're here at X-Games. You're both in slopestyle. All big air. And then you guys doing the jib jam two. No. Just love song, big air. Which you guys have both won. Golden. Right. First time you won gold. Slopestyle. No big no big. Then you won a gold here. No I, I won gold on the last. No, you should have won gold. Should have won gold. You won gold for real snow. Still an X games metal. You did win gold in our minds. What was that trick that he. He won gold and he learned a front 18. Did he do a 20 year event and then a back 19. Perfection. Oh, you talking about the the big third or something? Yeah. Yeah, yeah I got the third that year. But yeah it's a pretty big freaking hammers too. It was man. It's like I don't know. It's so fucking hard with judging these days. Like I feel like there are some people that sometimes just get underscored and I feel like there at times that has happened to both you guys. But it's, it's it's the, the, it's at a level where everybody's at such a high level and trying to compare comparing, you know, a 21 2018 to a nine. It's it's really difficult. Yeah. How do you do it. How you compare a back double rodeo to a bad game. Yeah. You know what I mean. It's like at a at a level. And like I was asking earlier like is there a spot where it the progression stops or are we just going to continue to progress. Very good question. I think a lot of people said that like when, people were doing ten 80s and like, I mean, you probably remember, yeah, people were mad at me for doing a 1080. That's not cool, man. No, I'm I know you fucked everything up, dude. It's just all good. Do a nine hundreds and you come over here and do this. Like Todd Richards was pissed. Did, And was it the same thing with the, like, the first double cork? So, yeah, I mean, that was a huge moment too, right? Because that's kind of where it took the sport more into like flipping than spinning and just big air, you know? And now it's like a combination of all these different things, you know, where exactly it's like I think, you know, and I've said it before where it's like with progression now, it's like kind of cool to see regression within style. Like we are seeing cool tricks actually being scored well. Right. Like double back rodeos are still I mean, in my mind, one of the pinnacle tricks I love to see, you know, even just a single I want a lot of money on that third jump up there with that switchback rodeo. That thing paid. Dude. Tell you what. What year was that? You won medals in slopestyle and off. But yeah, I don't know. It was a couple of years. I think it was like 2020, 2012 I don't know. No, no, 2009 ten somewhere in there. What were your first games? How old were you guys? You were young the first year you won, right? I was 17, that's wild. So when you had. No. But you just had a bib on. Yeah. T shirt. You just had a t shirt on. Tap out t shirt, top out t shirt. It was a Tapout t shirt. Yeah. That's incredible. Doesn't says 909 then Big Bear got a two minute Tapout t shirt and a hoodie. Two bucks got they got to bring the Tapout t shirts back and then. And then. Rene, before you now have a clothing deal. Yeah. So you have to wear. But before you were wearing stuff like you were just making your own stuff. What were you wearing? This was a leather jacket, right? Yeah, yeah. I've been, I've been rocking a lot, like some, thrift shop stuff under, like, my father's old stuff. But, yeah, now I'm wearing a more new stuff. Waterproof things from the new era. Yeah, because you kind of had the Moto cycle vibe going, right? You got a couple choppers in Finland, right? Yeah. Finland? Yeah. You have a motorcycle? Yeah, yeah I do. It's, like old Yamaha. It's a 1976 X6. 650 I bought it, I remember like, I saved a lot of money when I was younger just to to have, like, a motorcycle when I turned 18. Because that was my big dream back then. And, yeah, I bought the motorcycle before a car and, rode the bike for two years without the license. And, then I got my bike license. Finally got your license? Did you get any tickets without a license? They couldn't catch them, cuz. Fast, man. It's insane. He's wide open. Where does it. You're kind of the opposite. I mean, you've had the motorcycles, right? But more for catching. They're dirt bikes. No. Yeah, I grew up, like racing and stuff, and then followed my buddy through the hoops and realized it wasn't. It wasn't for me. Swap. At what point you like that? Well, it was time. It was time to let it rip wide open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it didn't go my way. Wow. Yeah. I think that's kind of how you decide if you're going to keep racing moto. If you make it. Through the hoops the first time. It makes sense because I watch these races. I'll be like that. Some people make it look so easy and then other people, you're like, that looks so dangerous. Like losing your rhythm where it's not like that. And then when you fall, you basically break a bone. Pretty hyped on my decision. Yeah. How you feeling? How's your body feeling? Beat up. But it's working for the most part. Yeah. It's working. Yeah. Things are moving. Yeah. You had a good summer. You were down in Australia that you're in Bali for a bit. Yeah. I feel like you just fit right in Bali. It was. It was that. It definitely felt like home. Yeah. It's just so nice. It's insane. That probably is a good. Yeah. It's going to stress some good surfing a little bit. Yeah. It was pretty windy season but did a lot of fun stuff. Dingo will just take me to Bali twice a day. It was. Was I supposed to take you to Bali? Yeah, that was our dream trip together. Well, we can still do it. Must be our honeymoon. We never got married. We can still do that. I know that's a good idea. I mean, the longer we go, the. You know, the more you're just common law at this point, really? Maybe we will get married. Maybe we'll take him to Bali. How are you guys feeling out there? It was a nice day. Beautiful course. Big stuff. It's, It's pretty. I it's pretty solid out there. Right? Super windy. Today was all the snow itself is awesome, though. The wind is a very unusual thing for here, correct? Yeah. I was pretty surprised for sure. Yeah. It's it's whipping. Like I feel like touching the knuckles and there's whip it. I feel like we in all the years. I don't know if I've really seen it. So what's the set? The set ups? Three, three features, three jumps this year. Yep. They took out the spine hip jump OG class. I feel like you two were like, oh, like, you guys better off having the spine there. Oh, you got way, way more fun because it's like. Yeah, it's, the same thing is kind of what, Danny Davis was doing with the Peace Park. Like, show the best riders you know, of all terrain. Yeah. And so, yeah, you really get to see the difference when they throw the side hits. And because you have to have some pipe skills to hit those for sure. Yeah. I feel like that's a good setup. But it's the worst. And it's like three jump straight and it's they're all tiny because we've got Tiger over here and four foot tall tires and he can throw it down on dude can spin Yeah he's good. And he was ripping today even. It was pretty pretty windy. Ridiculous. Yeah. He was probably one of the the only riders who was hitting the jumps. But it's always fun when there's big jumps too because some of that some the people get scared. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's good. You kind of want that. Yeah. I think you guys are doing both slopestyle at Big Air. You just don't slow. I'm doing Slope and Knucklehead. Yeah. It's not like getting old. I don't know why. I'm just up. Like, is it, is it like, was it that thing that was like cool and fun? And then now it's like, I like you just. It's fun for me to do it because it's like, you just don't know what you're going to do. Like, I have no idea what. Yeah, I'm going to come up with, but you have to come up with something. Yeah, necessarily. You don't care. Yeah, exactly. It's for fun. It's because you don't know. You know, it's for shits and giggles. You don't know how they're going to judge it. You don't know what other people are going to do. You got to do something cool though. So when are you going to decide just in the moment, or do you usually need that like contest like all right, time to time to go. Yeah. It's pretty hard to let it rip before that. I feel like lawn darts are pretty cool. Although I was letting it rip. Dude. Really? Yeah. He's going fourth line. No, fourth line, he's going Jamie Anderson on that thing. Remember when Jamie did that back three to the bottom. Yeah yeah I was he's getting close I think Jamie still holds the title. Yeah I don't think she meant to. But she went far. How we'll see how has has there been any problems on this bottom jump this year? I feel like Charles did a good job right? Yeah. Amazing win. Today is the only issue. And there's there's supposed to be win. When do you guys are you guys competing? Friday and Saturday. I have no idea. Yeah, I think the slopestyle is on a better day. I wish I had the sheet, but it's earlier this year, so X-Games is starting Thursday. Then Friday and Saturday. So there's no competition. On Sunday, the event is streaming live on Roku the whole week and then, locally on ESPN and ABC throughout the weekend. So they're good. Three areas to go to. Kicking things off with men's snowboard super pipe Thursday night. You guys excited to watch that? It's kind of it's at a it's a it the competition to happen at least last week was probably one of the better upload competitions to happen in a very long time. It definitely has a slope rider makes you kind of rethink. Yeah, your whole life you're like, damn, I suck. I know you're insane, dude. Locks was insane. Yeah. They, I mean, what why why was that? It's the been the same. It's been the same half pipe, right? Do they were just going so big. And then at the end, half of them were throwing, like, back double rodeos, but still, like, not taking an extra check by any means. Yeah. Yeah. Like double like insane. Wow. Well, you there, it's a different Bailey, I'd say, than most. Yeah, I was there. Yeah. They really ditched that half pipe out. And it's just super just it was pretty incredible because they held it at night where you're like, all right, two runs a night. Are people going to hold back? And literally it was like triple cork, triple cork, triple cork. I think five out of the 12 guys all did triples. And then little cam who you were talking about and Yamada had some really sick alley oop back enders that were just like wall cams was mind blowing because I've, I've seen him at the slope. He was doing slope last year or two years ago, and he's pretty good for sure. But I'd never seen him ride pipe. That was next level. Yeah, he'd really manned up and he landed one in qualifiers during the day. I don't know if you saw it, but it was like five feet bigger. And he landed so low and like barreled back into the pipe, like kind of caught the toes and just went in. And I actually was like, that looked like Rene to me. Everyone was like, yeah, dude, I saw it. But it was it was awesome. Hey, who'd you grow up looking up to? Like, skate influence, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of skaters, but, definitely my bigger brother. He's, five years older. He started snowboarding first, and, Yeah, big thanks to him. Then I was, like, pretty much just doing everything what he was doing because I thought he was the coolest thing. Whatever he was doing. So. Yeah, probably my bigger brother. How old were you when you started? That was four. Four? Yeah. Your parents. I'm so proud. I think they're they're pretty happy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Of course, like four years old and snowboarding. Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's so you don't you don't remember getting on a snowboard? No, no no. Unfortunately. Can't remember the first days. Wow. That's got to be nice. You just wake up one day or six years old and you're good at snowboarding, right? You're just like your first memories. Like, probably doing a 540. You're already looking for spots where mine was like, probably. And crying because I, like, went into the woods and couldn't get out. But I also feel like back. I mean, now I see little, little kids snowboarding and they have those little leashes and their parents are holding them by a leash and it seems like it's a little bit more controllable. But back then, did they have something like that? I don't think so. Yeah, they do get you a leash. You know what? We should get me a leash. She's fast, man. She's hard to keep up with him when she gets her kid on. Forget about it. Yeah, forget about it. Let's see. Tomorrow what kids she's going to for on the big air. Yeah. They knuckle, that's going to send her off. She's not even going to scope it. Give it a go. So you're you're you're buddies. You're here. Yeah. But it's you've had a rough go. My body's here, but. Yeah, I've had a rough go. Yeah. It's been but chronic back issues. So it's been one of those things that you've been trying to figure out. Yeah I just like originally messed up three things and then went and got one fixed and the others get worse. And then you go get the thing that's bugging you fix. But then the thing that doesn't hurt at that moment gets worse later. So quite the roller coaster. And then you're feeling it's working. It's working. It was pretty rough the first few contests. But now, yeah, it could have gone 1 or 2 ways. You know, it could have kept getting worse. But it's been like it gets worse. And then it gets better. But now like like locks open was chill. No issues. Yeah. My back or nothing. Just like sciatic nerve I get this pinched in my butt and then my back starts kind of like glitching out, you know? But yeah, right now all is good. I have a broken elbow that's not working at all. But you don't need your elbow. Really need. Yeah, that's that's what they say. So how did you what did you teach your elbow? I just been putting off a surgery that I didn't really need to get because it wasn't bothering me. Yeah, the doctor said he's like, we can do surgery, but if it's not bothering you again. And it wasn't at all for, like 3 or 4 years. Five years. And then just was surfing like swimming up from a wave didn't even fall and it popped all gnarly. And I thought it was like dislocated. So I went and got a check and checked out and they're like, yeah, you're broke. What? You broke a long time ago. We need to screw it up. But it's like, yeah, you don't really need your elbow for snowboarding. So dusty, what about stem cells? I'm going to go yeah, yeah. Big summer ahead of mine. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was just when I went there last year, I was with Riley and Tony Hawk, and he had his elbow shot up and Tony at his neck. And. Yeah, Tony is going back. He's going to be there next week to bring his wife because it works so well. Yeah, I think I'm going to Columbia. Yeah. I just came back from Bio accelerator. That's right. I was just there last week. Yeah. No drinking, smoking, nothing. Yep. Month or two. And then you go there and you're. Yeah. Yeah. Bio chamber this and then. Yeah they did my niece four days ago. So I'm going to take these baby puppies out for a ride tomorrow. You've been going there. You've been there three times. Yeah, I've gone three times. And it's, It's incredible. You'll love it. They're really good people. Yeah, it's pretty much the only thing I haven't tried. I've done all the. Yeah, yeah, it's going to work. Sweet, guys. It's going into, Olympic year. Do you, did you, did you go did you went to the last Olympics? You had a nightmare. Yeah. Did you get quarantined and. Oh, yeah. Covid was not fun. You like, did your Olympics in, like, a bubble? Yeah. I just like, tested positive right when I got there after, like, the huge flight day. And then went into corn. You have to go into quarantine until you test to two negative test within 24 hours apart. So like one night you need to go negative and then the next night you need to go negative. And I just kept going every other. But this was like I didn't even have Covid. I got Covid at X-Games like two months before. And it was it to us. It was like I got it at copper, like at a, World Cup. Yep. And then I went, I was chill, you know, finally healed up from it. Went to X-Games like a month later. And then I tested positive when I got to X-Games. So that was like, but X-Games let me compete because I told him it was from a month later. But China was not down with like any sort of positive test. So I went to LA for a week for the same thing as China, like quarantine for a week. Had to get two negative tests in a row. Finally got it like right before the flight, like. So I was like, yeah, five days before I didn't even know if I was going to go to the Olympics still. And then I got to go. I thought it was all good when I got there, like, you know, horrible week, but it's behind me. And then we got to our place at like four in the morning and my coaches came knocking. They're like, yeah, you're positive. You're positive. Like we got to put you in quarantine. So then went into quarantine and that took eight days to get home. I couldn't I couldn't open the window couldn't go outside. Brown shower water like brown shower water like no showers, no nothing. Just push ups and and some KFC sandwiches. How is the KFC sandwich there? Their menu is okay because I tried to buy some but they don't take cash or card. Menu was one spicy chicken sandwich or a normal chicken sandwich. Okay, did you alternate or do you go spicy spicy, spicy all the way? It was gnarly though. And then right now you're. How does it work for Finland? How's the qualifying process go for that? I mean, you need to be like top 30 or something. Third in the top 30 in the world and top four in your country. Yeah, exactly. I was looking pretty good. Actually not too good at the moment because the top 30. Yeah. Gotta be in the top. Like last year or the last couple of years. Been filming and injured, so. But, there's not, like a huge Finnish team. No, no, no, it's getting bigger. But like, around the last Olympics, it was like pretty pretty much if you made it to the top 30, you were like, good to go. So I think there was only, two guys running even like that. There could be like four spots. Yeah. So it's going to be, it's back in Italy. Danny's. Danny's a big fan of Italy. Danny won a silver medal there. We were just talking about that. That was 2006 when he was there. And he got his second Olympic silver medal. That's really nearly 20 years. It will be literally 20 years to the day I was sitting in the athlete lounge today, which is crazy because these guys are like 20 years old. I was looking around and I was like, goddammit, I'm that guy, the old guy sitting in the athlete lounge. Yeah, but you're like a mascot at this point. They're like, I'm going to see dingo. Yeah. If you're not here, it's not going to make sense. You're like, you're like the Bruce Buffer of UFC. He's like the dingo. Like the dingo. Yeah. But I mean I'm going to put it into UFC world. There's like something about having you always see without Joe Rogan. Exactly. That's true. I don't want to I don't want to make him too excited. Oh, it's crazy. Me and Danny, we're just talking about it. But it's like we've been coming here for 20 years. We've been coming to X-Games Aspen. Well, yes, since. Well, since 2002. I think since 2002, they've had the US winter ones here. They've done a couple others. Yeah. Other places. It's sad. This may be the last time we're here. This could be. This could be history. Why, why what do you know? That may be moving. What? Yeah. You're moving. It could be moving. There. Get what? Yeah. Where are they going? To move. Oh, yeah. Park city, I heard that's yeah, I heard a few locations they've been talking about, but they're new Jersey to new Jersey. You'd be saying. Yeah, I heard them moving to Mountain Creek. Yeah, yeah. No, no, the indoor, the indoor park in Jersey. Well, that wouldn't be as cool. But yeah, it's Mountain Creek would be sick. Rene. You'd like it there. It's crazy man. Like, we kind of grew up over here at the bottom of that half pipe there. The first time I came here, I was, I think I was 15, and I was spray painting people with grenades, stencils. The, Where were you spray painting them? Everywhere. Everywhere. What were your highlights, like? Quite remember, like competing, coming down and watching these girls walk around with, like, grenades on their chests. Times were way different. Spray painted girls chests with real spray paint. Toxic. Yeah. Then we, Then we brought Vern the dog here. We had Vern. We had a dog with the credential. Yep. He even in a photo. There used to be, a huge scaffolding there. You just get it seems just got smaller every every year. Well, good, because now we can see the actual horse. We actually have a really sick view. And we were saying we're going to do a viewing party from here. This is going to be, our, our viewing party. It looks like they, it looks that there's ski practice going on. I don't know, there's something about X-Games and just the energy that, that that that brings here. What day you guys competing think? Saturday. Saturday. Are you doing bigger? Not sure yet. Yeah. How do you not know? Because I think it's tomorrow. Is it? I don't know, that's what I heard. I don't know, someone said that someone threw that out. Are you like, an alternate or. You just don't know? You haven't made a decision. I thought, like, I'm only in, slopestyle, and, I just, found out yesterday that I'm actually in the list. Yeah, well, the good thing is, at least you've hit the jump already. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. A few times today, so. Feels good. I've done that before. Where? They woke me up in the rider Lounge. They're like, hey, you want to do big air? I'm like, sure. Okay, here we go. Bus and switchback roadie. It wasn't. Yeah, I didn't I know I tried to back ten, didn't get it around winter X-Games. Aspen I want to say it's day one, Danny, but it is not. It's our day one. It's in festival world. This is day zero. What does that mean? Like it's still loaded. I want to know because I know you know more than anyone. Tell me about the awesome music that's happening and where is it happening? It's actually happening right behind us. Local guy millennium and, dead mouse. And then daily bread, daily bread Thursday already? I don't get this wrong. Millennium Friday. And then, dead mouse on Saturday. And dead Mouse is a big deal. Altium and Dead Mouse are both huge deals, huge deals, huge deals like arena type. Can you sing one of their songs for me? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. That's sick. Is that dead mouse that's dead now, I can't really sing any of their songs. And that's going to be next level. Yeah, they're more, like dubstep. Like it's going to be sick. Yeah, it's going to be pretty sick. You guys are to that kind of music. I don't know, you're in a band. What do you mean you don't know? Are you doing like. I'm trying to remember what they sound like? I don't know, I'm not going to say yes before I know. It's like, classic. Like, here, I'll play your dead mouse. Classic song, dub EDM, right? Yep, yep. Rene is, Rene, you still in a band legend? Yeah, yeah. You shred the guitar, I'm a little bit. We have you perform live here once. Yeah. I think that was 20, 20 or 19. That was the first time for me being at the X-Games and. I remember like, Torstein had like similar music in his. Oh, I think that might be an orgasm. Probably like some some movie. Yeah, I like, I like that stuff. Torstein just dropped a pretty good hammer, Yeah. Full video. Amazing. Amazing. Really sick Japanese footage. Yeah. And he scored the whole thing himself. I didn't realize he was such a composer. Exactly. And I think he did some some music himself as well for the project. I was just thinking about that when you said, very smart guy, Very smart. Like he's like, he's like, always kind of been, you know, kind of like behind the scenes. And he's he's like outed my age. He's got to be in his late 30s. No one's as old as you know. I think he is. Right. How old is he then? I don't know, but he might be the first guy to do a triple, right? Yeah, I think so. That Norway jump. Yeah, I think so. And a frontside frontside frontside triple quirky thing. Yeah. There's like full backflip threes is gnarly. How. Yeah. How scary are triples. Pretty scary. Yeah. When you're doing them all the time you get better and it's not that scary. But the first couple of the season are always like this might take you two weeks to to chuck one. So yeah like the first time you do one. That's been a while. It's like a build up. Yeah, yeah. It's terrifying to think about it. Oh I know I can't. I literally try to think about it. Definitely not chill. Yeah it is. You don't want to under rotate. No. When you like that trick. No What are you guys most excited for this weekend? What are you what are you looking forward to the most? You're here at X games. Thanks. Slope. Should be pretty fun. The real jam will be fun to watch. The knuckle look, the slope, the slope showdown. Who? Who are we looking for? Who's it going to be? Who's going to be the top five? Dusty for sure. We'll see about that for sure. Dusty. Renee. Back at the top. Yeah. Me, Renee and Sven. See, that would be a sick podium. Now. It's going to be tough to shake down Liam Barry, though. Red riding real good. Liam Fisher, Liam, Red Tiger, some heavy hitters. Yeah, I heard Tiger's been switched on, man. Yeah I'm doing very good. Yeah. Do you guys watch the half five at all? Oh yeah. For sure. It's kicking off. It's the Monster Energy half pipe band I know. And it's tomorrow night. We get to kick it off with men. It's going to be pretty wild. And you're coaching and Foster Foster's in there. Yeah. Lucas Foster, Joey Ackerson from the East Coast also rides in a leather jacket, which is pretty dope from Joe Carson. Joe Carson, he's no joke. Acid junkies. Obviously, you know, the hammers are all there. Scotty. We actually saw a couple big, big slams yesterday. Are you? Who did a wild one? He did a front up to 50, 50 front flipped in switch, front flip, I guess, and then stomped it. He's pretty mechanical. He's pretty mechanical. So obviously he's here getting used to it already pushing it out. And then Scotty James, Scotty, James. That's for Scotty. And I mean going as well. Cab triple spin in every different direction. Switch back doubles. You know, I wonder I'm excited to see how I scores. Am I scoring pretty high. But yeah. What do you guys think was, Reyes. So are you saying. Oh, yeah. Yamada or I will say he's sick. New young kid from Japan. Psycho. Does this, like, really cool back double. Oh. Like tuck knee turn yet like, is it just me or Japan? I was switch and then then he does a switch mic twist after which is like beautiful and like, who was the guy who did the like double Mack twist. Kind of from Japan. Not not Ollie Lucas Foster. No that's him. Oh that same. Oh that's him. And how does he switch Mack twist and how does he go. Well, a lot of people like, Ruka and a couple of other hammers would do it. Switch. Switch kind of back double. Yeah. But he does it regular. So regular double mic twist kind of thing. But then I know Lucas Foster's really excited to break out the double mic twist, which he's got to do it. If he doesn't do it, that's what you should be here. I'm excited. Yeah. So he's been warming it up on first hit in last hit, so that'd be pretty exciting. But I might not be right like that. People want to see it. People want to see it. Man. He did. He didn't do it last year. Like you can't come here and not do it. Go big or go home. Run. You got to. So he's he's super excited for it. There weren't many big what did you you get like a mini pipe growing up in Big Bear, right. It's like a little ditch, 18 footer, maybe. Maybe 15. It's like right in between. It's a unique little pipe. You did. What year did you then I moved a man. Yeah. Let's just say. What year did you move to mammoth? I was 13 when we moved. Eight, eight, eight years ago. Lived out the back of, wave rev for in the motorhome. The motorhome? Yeah. Man. Man, it was so good back in the day, like I was there. I did a trip last year and I just feel like it's not the same. It's definitely not the same. It just doesn't have that. That there's no people that every single person is gone. Yeah, there's there wasn't very many people there and it just didn't have like a but then this is perfect park or there's a lot of sick drums coming up. So yeah that's cool. We'll see what kind of styles they end up with. I mean you've got you're going to place like mammoth is your backyard. You're you're the world is there's no better place to grow up. And I just hope that, you know out there relives like the spring and does pop. People go in there. People still go there. That's great. That's like the that's why I said they build they build it out, wait for it to get well. It just gets the weather. No wind and sun and spring lasts till almost July there. I mean, you're riding good terrain all the way through. Yeah. Big shout out to Troy McCall talking about mammoth, one of the heaviest locals we got to grow up with. And definitely see them hanging out with your parents quite a bit. Uncle Troy, Troy, do you know Troy? I can't put a face to the name, but I know probably going to get my ass kicked. Oh, man. Yeah. How's your mom? My mom? Yeah. Great. So I just know everybody's. She's a she's your mom is the shit. You're always cool. I was just out riding more than we are. Is she here now? She's in mammoth getting. She shreds a lot. Yeah, she's she's getting it in Dodge shredding again too. That's cool. He he got a bad knee for a while. We just got it fixed. So he's he's good to go. Yeah. Mammoth hasn't had any good snow this year. Oh there's that one I went a couple like months ago. There was that one good damage. You got the snowfall I got there. So yeah we went because it was the day after Thanksgiving and then the Sunday we were leaving. Everything melted that day. So we had like two clean, perfect days. They had enough snow to get the park, like proper. Yeah. Now they're just kind of maintaining it. Yeah, but no, no new dumps, no freezing right now apparently. And do you get to home base out of there still. So what kind of sort of. Not really a job. I got a place in Oceanside near the beach, so just like, getting, like, coming home from a trip and repacking. I got to go there. Can't go to mammoth. But yeah, as soon as I get it, a week or two off, I'm going. Going to mammoth. Really? How was the process of, winning, X games? Real stuff? Yeah. Pretty. I don't know how to put it in words, but, of course, you're, like, pretty nervous to, like, find all those spots. And, yeah, you don't have, like, crazy much time to film the the part, and you're just trying to, like, get only only the, the hammers or. Yeah. So it's a little stressful for sure. And, when we were filming it, it was we already, like, had a few spots already, like, like we're going to hit these spots when, when, when the snow comes down. But it actually it was super warm, winter in Finland. So I think kind of everywhere it like. Yeah, they started it was like October to January. So you got such a short window to make this thing happen. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. No. Until November. And then we have to go. We had to go compete like early January. Yeah. There's a pretty much only a month and a half. Pretty much pretty much short window. 12 bangers. You did something really cool last year, too. You guys went and snowboarded the, Northern Lights. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually, a few years ago, but, then what did you. Jody came out last year, right? It came out the green, green green hour. Yeah, yeah. And, stolen together went back last year. Kind of like those two sessions of that. Yeah, yeah. Your footage was from two years ago. Probably even more like three years ago. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. And that was, like, a pretty cool. Where are you guys camping out there, too? Yeah, yeah. Tell us about a lot of experience. Yeah, we're. We were just, living in igloos. No, no. You do. You have the igloo block, like, when you were a kid. Make them kind of like, you put water on a pocket and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember if I ever done that, but you were camping out at night in Norway? Yeah. No, it was like. So we were always filming during the night, and then we were like, coming back to the, the, the, the cottage or the place where we were staying, but we. Yeah, we spent a lot of time out there in the mountains just waiting for that good light. And yeah, it felt like camping for sure. And then tell us about how heaven came about, because it was kind of your movie ride that you produced with your long time friend. Yeah, exactly. So, the first one we kind of like filmed that longer video was the sugared. Yeah, few years ago. And then, we felt like, okay, maybe like we should do, like, something similar, but, like, a bit longer. So not just one year project. More like two year project. And, yeah, we are very stoked for the opportunity to have, like, able to put two years in into a movie and, and it's a dream come true for us. And of course, like we've been filming since we were like ten years old, me and Anton and Tatu, that's the the crew. We filmed the whole project. So forever grateful for for them. Yeah, it's like a full circle moment. Yeah, yeah. And, they are the guys who actually invited me, like, when I was ten years old, like, oh no way. Yeah, like, because they were, they were making like, snowboard videos and they were filming video parts. They're the same age as my my brother, five years older than me. So they are the people who asked me to for the first time, like, should we film? And that's how I got got to snowboarding. He cut across the boundaries like there's only a few people that have done it, and done it at a high level. Who's the other kid? The Canadian kid? That that did the flip upside down and the flip on the. No, no, Frank. Yeah. I feel like I feel like the only other person that's come close to what you've kind of done is him. Thank you. Like everybody else that kind of had done it has it hasn't been. Has it been done like that. It's very it's very out of the box kind of thinking. And I think it's very, I don't know, skateboard thinking to maybe a little bit to work building those spots too. Yeah. Three. Definitely one. Yeah. So tell us about that live. Well sometimes you find the spot. Yeah. Okay. So, depends on the spot for sure. But sometimes we've been even using, like, the small, small tractors, like, kind of just pushing the snow on the landing. And then of course you shape it with the, with the shovels, but most of the times it's just pushers and you're spending hours to put like the landing somewhere. And yeah, now our police are security or police like, chasing after you. In Finland, it's pretty, pretty mellow, actually. And, I mean, it's hard to ask for a permission if you, if you ask, like, okay, like, it's like a school or something, like, do you guys mind if we snowboard and do flips down from the roof? It's kind of hard to get permission. But like, once you explain, like, what are you what are you doing? And, we're not, like, destroying anything or then they're pretty, pretty cool with it. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's it's I think I played it here. I wish we could drop a link in there, but it's. It's blowing up on social media. It's, it's at a it's got a million views, which is, which is awesome. It's it's cool to it's cool to see, you know, snowboarding still out there, still thriving in that way, getting the light that it that it should. And I think it's both of you guys, man. Like both of you guys are, at the the way that you, you know, approach snowboarding is so authentic. But, you know, it's it's it's very difficult what you guys do, you make you make it look so fucking easy. But it's not easy. What you guys are doing, and you make you make it. You're like, you two of the coolest guys. I had to check and make sure my fit was good. This morning with Red, I thought of fit. Check with him. But you got. You guys make snowboarding look awesome. But it's crazy that you taking it to this level, but you kind of still make it, you know, fun and you make it look somewhat easy. It's the style, you know what I mean? Style is everything. That's my opinion is the core part of snowboarding. These guys lose it a little bit bigger. But these guys like have such unique styles, even different than each other. But, they still make you want to go fucking snowboard and they make you want to do stuff you probably normally wouldn't do, you know? But I think that's interesting when you're saying, like when you're bringing AI into the judging, it's like, I can't judge style. And that is such an important part of it, don't you think? Yeah. Unless there's like a tweak factor in there where they know that, like you're over here and your boards over here, maybe like it could judge like body displacement, but it's not going to know how it picks a favorite style. You know, like the judges is not any better either though. I mean, yeah. What do you mean, the AI judges? Oh, they're actually going to test AI judging in the half pipe. Okay. So they're going to have like the computer set up and somehow it's going to like count the rotations and know if you're grabbing or not. Yeah. And then it's going to score it and they're going to play it on TV. Yeah. Next to the the real. Oh okay okay. Judges scores to kind of see. Because remember when they used to do like the text in voting that was kind of like maybe a little unfair. Like, if you're more popular, you don't want to be going up against that guy. Yeah, you know what I mean? That guy is more popular. So I think this is the new age of text in voting, but now it's going to be computer voting. Interesting. Yeah, I like the upside that I would say is like possible possibly more consistency. Which is kind of like as a writer what you need you know, you need to know what they're looking for. So yeah. So you can put your run together because if you know that's what the read is like phenomenal. And he just is so good at knowing like he might not do like the craziest style. Like the most style. But he like when I watch and I'm like, oh, every trick is just so like, how did I not think of that? Like the judges are given that a ten, ten, ten, like, but I feel like he gets under judge sometimes because the judges do a random shit. Yeah, but that's like a big important thing in slopestyle, right? Where you want to do a trick on a feature that no one else is doing that trick on. Maybe they're doing it on like the first thing, but you can kind of tweak it and that's where, like you're saying, so Red's pretty good at like kind of mapping out his run a run. I was super hyped on for qualities and locks and it was like technical and cool and style. I was super hyped on it and then I got force on all the sections, you know, versus like cab 270 back to 70, gets a seven yard slide, front flip gets a seven. So I just for call or semis. I just was like okay front to switch back to slide. Front flip. And I got sevens. But it's like yeah you have to you got to know what the judges are kind of going to do. So some consistency is definitely nice. I've been take kind of pull in the gut. Quite a few people aside, the last two seasons didn't go because you're from my era where I'm like, hey guys, like you're going to want a 450 onto this. And they're like, no, like, it's not cool. I go, dude, not cool. Like, I watched Mark Frank with with so much money doing like back four 50s on and you know, four 50s but like they're like no it's not that cool. That's an eight point trick. But then you hit a, you know, one of the up tubes, and then all of a sudden you guys are going like 630 and all sorts of crazy stuff. Yeah. But you could also do like something dope and yeah, you just don't really get rewarded most of the time or just. Yeah, like some consistency because then they'll also like this happened in the box people, you know, they reward the huge sixteens and they pretty much don't give you a good score if you don't do one. But then some guy who did he did like a 900 and then a 16, like they just gave him a nine for the 199 900 just because he did a 16 down here instead of like, yeah, like all of us are like, we thought you wanted spins. Like, I didn't know I could do a 900 and get away with it. Yeah, just pretty random right now. You had a good hammer on that jump before the quarter pipe that dub Crip pullback. Yeah, that was it. What'd you get scored on that one like a seven. Yeah. Nothing better than a normal double crippler I would have given A79. That's crazy. Yeah I mean I definitely got decent points for it. But there was a kid who did the same run with just a normal double crippler, and he happened to 1440 of the jump before. So his whole score, all of his scores were like in. But I think it's kind of like, it's also about like the wow. Like like then probably the judges might forget what happened on the or not forget, but like if you do like 900 and then you do something insane. It's more like what? Like what just happened? And then the the whole score might be like, it was like the mad Max pyro era, you know, I think that, like, maybe it wasn't the best style, but it was always, whoa, but it wasn't, you know. And he was he did he do a quad? Yeah, I think he cab. He did it. Yeah. I mean quadruple 16 just to, but like. Yeah like flip flip flip flip 90. Yeah 90. That's false. That's not look that's probably the craziest one. Like the gnarliest thing. Yeah I like that one. And then I like the I like triple back rodeos. Do you want to do anything I would reward that really high. Oh yeah. Like the real flippy one. Two friends got a master. I've never seen what happened to him in contest. Like it doesn't doesn't go well. He doesn't score well. 12 1260. It's got to be 16 or 8. I feel like you get underscored on your, on your, rails to a lot. Well, I, when I was doing the pull back stuff, they really like that. And I was stoked on that. Makes sense. Like and they still do that. Like they'll give a 270 pullback more points than your 270 on 270 off. But you can't do that on it. Like you know this course is not built for 270 pullback 270 pullback. You know like you got to do some other tricks. So it's just hard you know it's very it's very either you do a 270 pullback or you do a 270 on 270 off. Or you do like a 180 off. And as much spending as you can do off after instead of where it's like even some even sometimes Trump board pretzels can kind of get underscored. Right. That's a really that's a hard trick. Really difficult trick. Yeah. For me. All right, guys, we're winding down. Danny, you got some, lightning round questions as we wrap up with dusty, dusty and rainy here at Winter X-Games. Aspen kicking off tomorrow. And, all the way through Saturday, Friday, Saturday. You can check your ESPN, ABC listings and, live on Roku. I believe we're live on Roku the whole weekend. I don't know how that works, but I think it's it's lot. It's live. If you want to check anything out at any time, you can go to the Roku. If not, kicking off Thursday night, I think at 6 p.m. on ABC. I can't wait to watch it. All right, let's get to some lightning round questions to get to know these guys a little bit more. If you weren't a snowboarder, what would you be? Racing dirt bikes? I have no idea. Skateboarding? Yeah. You'd be skateboarding for sure. Yeah, probably playing football. Tampa Pro, street rails or backcountry jump? For me, I'm more leaning to backcountry now. That's definitely a tough one. That's like, yeah, if you like pipe or slope, they're both epic. Okay. Backcountry jump. Not the best powder or street spot treats. Wall Street. Yeah. Goofy. A goofy or regular who has the best style? That's kind of a funny one. Yeah, because you're goofy. Frank. Right. And Bradshaw. Bradshaw. Bradshaw. Local like Big Bear shit. Yeah. For sure that that good style swag is pretty unreal. Yeah yeah yeah I think yeah. Bradshaw swag was totally Stevens swag is pretty. Yeah. Go with it as well. One snowboard trick you wish you could do effortlessly. Just, regular back rodeo. Like, why is that harder than rodeo five? I don't know, like I've been. Or I can do, like, seven or back. Rodeo nine, but, like, just the back. Rodeo five. It's so hard. But sweets is safely. I got you, bro. You can help me with switchback. Oh, I would say switchback double rodeo 12 would be an insane one to just be like, yeah, I got that all day. Yeah. If you could describe your writing style in one word. Mega stiff. Mega stiff. I want that hat. One word. How about we describe each other? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. Let's do that for you. It's like sleepy or like. Haha. Blues. Yeah, that's kind of where I am usually in my head. And what about your head? Say, like, just calculated, but so, like soulful and like flowy and. Just a lot of soul into it, you know. You feel you feeling it. Really feeling everything I'd say. Wild. Wow. Got like a wild. So you kind of remind me like a raccoon sometimes like that. Just like you try to just like spot it. Then he's like oh fucking that. Oh like you see him in the mini pipe. And it's just so like McCann, he's feeling it like riding it. It. Thank you. What do you blast in your head for before an event? I've been doing a lot of Biggie Smalls. I, like, try to go to other places, but then I go back there and it works. Always back to biggie. Yeah, definitely feel nice. That's nice. We like fired up but you're it's very slow. Awesome. Me and Hodges, we've been listening a lot Oasis lately. Yeah. Oasis. All that comeback. Yeah. Exactly. That comeback tour. And you got an Oasis t shirt on. Literally. No way. Wow. Oh, yeah. I got in the queue to buy concert tickets, and I was 220,000 in queue. And then I went to sleep and woke up, and I was like, 100. And then my phone died. I was listening to some mono monologue. Sick, I think, and I think it's monologue. The Empress Rising sick just super. What are you listening to, dingo? Right now I've been listening to, the Post Malone country album. Nice. What about you, Brittany? What's in the headphones? You know, I like churches. I, I like, like you like to look at them. Is it a band? No, it's a band. Okay. I like millennium two. Actually. The boys here at Dusty and Ready. Thank you so much. We appreciate you so much energy. Let's have a winning weekend. And, let's have fun and let's kick some ass. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you everybody. Extreme.